Mr 1:8 - Revision history

Dubbayou2: /* with the Holy Ghost */

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‎with the Holy Ghost

Dubbayou2: /* shadows of baptism */

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‎shadows of baptism

Dubbayou2 at 15:24, 28 July 2018

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Dubbayou2 at 21:29, 12 November 2016

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Dubbayou2: Dubbayou2 moved page Mk 1:8 to Mr 1:8

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Dubbayou2 moved page Mk 1:8 to Mr 1:8

Dubbayou2 at 00:51, 11 November 2016

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Dubbayou2: /* Baptism */

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‎Baptism

Dubbayou2: /* Baptism */

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‎Baptism

Dubbayou2: /* Baptism */

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‎Baptism

Dubbayou2: /* Repentance and forgiveness */

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‎Repentance and forgiveness

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 Some people say they have been baptized, but have no interest in remaining in his word. Some say they have the Holy Spirit, but do not wish to study.  Do you see a problem here?
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 :The sinner was not able to find the word of Christ without the word of the prophet. <ref>[[Ro 10:14]] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?</ref>
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+:[[Mr 1:8]] I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
-A person who cannot solve riddles can't challenge them effectively. If they don't see the answers, they simply don't see them. A proclamation that they don't see it, is of no value. But one who can solve the riddles can challenge a solution by showing a verse where the metaphor does not mean the same thing. An open question, a place where the metaphor when applied as proposed is not understood, remains an open riddle to be solved.
+==Baptism==
-It is my desire to share many things quickly so that a good sampling of prophecy is available as examples. As we run into opportunities to talk of the mechanics of solving riddles, we will point to an appendix.
+Baptizo is used to reference the physical act of being baptized, but should be understood, even when not nuanced to refer to bapto and baptizo together.  It is an introductory act as the beginning of a new life in the teaching of Christ.
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+==shadows of baptism==
 However, of particular importance is the story of Naaman. Naaman was a great captain in Syria who was a leper. <ref>[[2Ki 5:1]] ¶ Now Naaman, captain of the host of the king of Syria, was a great man with his master, and honourable, because by him the LORD had given deliverance unto Syria: he was also a mighty man in valour, [but he was] a leper. {with: Heb. before} {honourable: or, gracious: Heb. lifted up, or, accepted in countenance} {deliverance: or, victory}</ref> Naaman was told to immerse himself seven times in the Jordan. <ref>[[2Ki 5:10]] And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.</ref> When Naaman did it, he was cured and his flesh became as that of a little child. <ref>[[2Ki 5:14]] Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.</ref>
 Consider the following metaphor:
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 :But he was a leper, which means he was a sinner.
-:He was told to dip seven times... and since seven means complete, he was dipped completely.
+:He was told to dip seven times... and since seven means complete, he was dipped completely. He was baptizo-ed, where the completeness of seven is realized.
-:He was dipped in the water of the Jordan, or the Word of the Descender.  Jesus is the Son of God incarnate who descended from heaven.  He was immersed in the Word of Christ.
+:He was dipped in the water of the Jordan, or the 'Word of the Descender'.  Jesus is the Son of God incarnate who descended from heaven.  He was immersed in the Word of Christ.
-:His flesh became as a little child... He was forgiven.
+:His flesh became as a little child... He was forgiven. <ref>[[Mt 18:3]] And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.</ref> <ref>[[Mt 19:14]] But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.</ref>
 '''This is the picture that John was re-enacting.'''

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 No attempt has been made to present proofs of the claims here. Nor will there be. One does not prove a riddle. You get it or you don't. However, the solutions here are open to challenge. Once a riddle is solved it is open to all to challenge. Be aware that your opinion has no value. This is not intended to be an insult, but my opinion has no value either. I may have more experience is observing the prophetic riddle, but they are self-validating. We do not argue opinions. We collaborate to solve the riddle.

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 No attempt has been made to present proofs of the claims here. Nor will there be. One does not prove a riddle. You get it or you don't. However, the solutions here are open to challenge. Once a riddle is solved it is open to all to challenge. Be aware that your opinion has no value. This is not intended to be an insult, but my opinion has no value either. I may have more experience is observing the prophetic riddle, but they are self-validating. We do not argue opinions. We collaborate to solve the riddle.

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 Consider some other elements:
-:The word of the prophet pointed to the word of Christ. He did not call attention to himself, nor accept payment. The prophet receives freely, and so he gives freely.
+:The word of the prophet pointed to the word of Christ. He did not call attention to himself, nor accept payment. The prophet receives freely, and so he gives freely. <ref>[[Mt 10:8]] Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.</ref>
-:The nice guy sinner (Naaman) wanted to do something to be cleansed. All he had to do was trust the word of Christ (the water of the Jordan). No other water would do.
+:The nice guy sinner (Naaman) wanted to do something to be cleansed. All he had to do was trust the word of Christ (the water of the Jordan). No other water would do. <ref>[[Ac 4:12]] Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.</ref>
 :The sinner was not able to find the word of Christ without the word of the prophet. <ref>[[Ro 10:14]] How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?</ref>