Primordial theology - Revision history

Dubbayou2 at 23:56, 2 August 2014

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Dubbayou2: /* Which came first? */

2014-08-02T19:21:56Z

‎Which came first?

Dubbayou2 at 16:35, 2 August 2014

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Dubbayou2: /* Theological elements */

2014-08-02T16:25:48Z

‎Theological elements

Dubbayou2 at 16:22, 2 August 2014

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Dubbayou2: /* Baptism */

2014-08-02T16:09:31Z

‎Baptism

Dubbayou2: /* How early? */

2014-08-02T15:52:47Z

‎How early?

Dubbayou2: /* Which came first? */

2014-08-02T15:27:45Z

‎Which came first?

Dubbayou2: /* Which came first? */

2014-08-02T15:19:01Z

‎Which came first?

Dubbayou2 at 15:15, 2 August 2014

2014-08-02T15:15:13Z

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	Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. It would appear to be impossible to refute that claim if the unstated claims are allowed to stand without challenge.		Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. It would appear to be impossible to refute that claim if the unstated claims are allowed to stand without challenge.

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 It is implied that Christian theology did not exist until the time of Christ or thereafter. If that is true, simply showing that theological elements existed before the time of Christ suffices to prove that Christianity borrowed from pagan religions.
-However, a cursory review of a few scriptures is sufficient to show that the New Testament authors believed that they derived their doctrine from the Old Testament. ([[#1|1]]). It is unfortunate that many Christian dismiss the Old Testament as being irrelevant, since they do not know how to derive New Testament teaching from the Old Testament as Jesus and the apostles did. They lack the ability to read [[SP]].
+However, a cursory review of a few scriptures is sufficient to show that the New Testament authors believed that they derived their doctrine from the Old Testament. ([[#1|1]]). It is unfortunate that many Christian dismiss the Old Testament as being irrelevant, since they do not know how to derive New Testament teaching from the Old Testament as Jesus and the apostles did. They lack the ability to read sensus plenior.
 Since NT authors derived their doctrine from the Old Testament, this pushes the date of the earliest Christian doctrine concerning Christ to the earliest recorded scriptures.

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	Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. It would appear to be impossible to refute that claim if the unstated claims are allowed to stand without challenge.		Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. It would appear to be impossible to refute that claim if the unstated claims are allowed to stand without challenge.

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 ==Theological elements==
-Specifically, the list below are elements that they claim have been lifted from pagan religions:
+Specifically, the list below are elements that are claimed to have been lifted from pagan religions:
 :[[#Baptism|Baptism]]
 :[[#Afterlife|Afterlife]]

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 {{:Baptism}}
-==Afterlife==
+{{:Afterlife}}
-==Final judgement==
-==Virgin birth==
+{{:Final judgement}}
-==Death and resurrection==
-==Crucifixion==
+{{:Virgin birth}}
-==Ark of the Covenant==
-==Circumcision==
+{{:Death and resurrection}}
-==Saviors==
-==Holy Communion==
+{{:Crucifixion}}
-==Great flood==
-==Easter==
+{{:Ark of the Covenant}}
-==Christmas==
-==Passover==
+{{:Circumcision}}

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	==How early?==		==How early?==
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		+	Traditionally it has been believed that Genesis was written by Moses around the time of the Exodus. This would place the earliest doctrine about 1400 BC. Again it would appear that the pagan religions predated Judaism. However, P.J. Wiseman has demonstrated a distinct parallel between the structure of Genesis and that of clay tablets dating back to 2300 B.C. ([[#2\|2]])
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		+	The implication of Wiseman's observation is that "Genesis 1-37 could be a transcript from the oldest series of written records." It could have been written by the eyewitnesses to the events. This places the earliest date of possible prophecies concerning Christ and Christian doctrine to shortly after the day that man was created. If this is true, then doctrine concerning Christ, if it is found in Genesis 1-10, is the primordial theology.
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		+	===2===
		+	:"Ancient Records and the Structure of Genesis", P.J. Wiseman.

	==Theological elements==		==Theological elements==

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 ==Which came first?==
-It is implied that Christian theology did not exist until the time of Christ or thereafter. If that is true, simply showing that theological elements existed before then suffices to prove that Christianity borrowed from pagan religions.
+It is implied that Christian theology did not exist until the time of Christ or thereafter. If that is true, simply showing that theological elements existed before the time of Christ suffices to prove that Christianity borrowed from pagan religions.
-However, a cursory review of a few scriptures is sufficient to show that the New Testament authors believed that they derived their doctrine from the Old Testament. ([[#1|1]]). It is unfortunate that many Christian dismiss the Old testament as being irrelevant, since they do not know how to derive New Testament teaching from the Old Testament as Jesus and the apostles did. Simply, they lack the ability to read [[SP]]. Since NT authors derived their doctrine from teh Old Testament, this pushes the date of the earliest Christian doctrine concerning Christ to the earliest recorded scriptures.
+However, a cursory review of a few scriptures is sufficient to show that the New Testament authors believed that they derived their doctrine from the Old Testament. ([[#1|1]]). It is unfortunate that many Christian dismiss the Old Testament as being irrelevant, since they do not know how to derive New Testament teaching from the Old Testament as Jesus and the apostles did. They lack the ability to read [[SP]].
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-Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. Specifically, the list below are elements that they claim have been lifted from pagan rligions:
+Some claim that Christianity is simply an adaptation of pagan religions that predated it. It would appear to be impossible to refute that claim if the unstated claims are allowed to stand without challenge.
 :[[#Baptism|Baptism]]
 :[[#Afterlife|Afterlife]]