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Pig at 12:31, 28 April 2021

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Dubbayou2: /* Abraham the riddle second son */

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Dubbayou2 at 20:26, 21 March 2017

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Dubbayou2: /* Abraham the riddle second son */

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 There are two ways that this theme is played out concerning Abraham. He is literally a second son and he is figuratively a second son.
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-Abraham was the first instance of the first-son/second-son theme that Matthew saw. The theme says that he first son loses an inheritance and/or is fruitless and is also portrayed as being earthly. The second son is the heavenly son who gains the inheritance and is fruitful.
+Abraham was the first instance of the first-son/second-son theme that Matthew saw. The theme says that the first son loses an inheritance and/or is fruitless and is also portrayed as being earthly. The second son is the heavenly son who gains the inheritance and is fruitful.
 There are two ways that this theme is played out concerning Abraham. He is literally a second son and he is figuratively a second son.

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	Abram "died" desolate. He did not receive the promised child (Isaac). The child of promise came to Abraham. When Ishamel was born, he was born to Abram not to Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 16:15]] ¶ And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.</ref> Just so there is no misunderstanding about the desolation of Abram, Paul, in writing to the Hebrews confirms our method of interpretation. He calls Isaac, Abraham's only-begotten son. Though Abraham had many more sons, the only one that counts as a son of Abraham is Isaac because he is the child of promise. <ref>[[Heb 11:17]] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],</ref>		Abram "died" desolate. He did not receive the promised child (Isaac). The child of promise came to Abraham. When Ishamel was born, he was born to Abram not to Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 16:15]] ¶ And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.</ref> Just so there is no misunderstanding about the desolation of Abram, Paul, in writing to the Hebrews confirms our method of interpretation. He calls Isaac, Abraham's only-begotten son. Though Abraham had many more sons, the only one that counts as a son of Abraham is Isaac because he is the child of promise. <ref>[[Heb 11:17]] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],</ref>
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 Abraham is also a second son by way of riddle. He was born as Abram. <ref>[[Ge 11:26]] And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.</ref> He was "born again" as Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 17:5]] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.</ref>
-Abram "died" desolate. He did not receive the promised child (Isaac). The child of promise  came to Abraham. When Ishamel was born, he was born to Abram not to Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 16:15]] ¶ And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.</ref>  Just so there is no misunderstanding about the desolation of Abram, Paul, in writing to the Hebrews confirms our method of interpretation. He calls Isaac, Abraham's only-begotten son. Though Abraham had many more sons, the only one that counts as a son of Abraham is Isaac because he is the child of promise. <ref>[[Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],</ref>
+Abram "died" desolate. He did not receive the promised child (Isaac). The child of promise  came to Abraham. When Ishamel was born, he was born to Abram not to Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 16:15]] ¶ And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.</ref>  Just so there is no misunderstanding about the desolation of Abram, Paul, in writing to the Hebrews confirms our method of interpretation. He calls Isaac, Abraham's only-begotten son. Though Abraham had many more sons, the only one that counts as a son of Abraham is Isaac because he is the child of promise. <ref>[[Heb 11:17]] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],</ref>
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 :[[Ge 11:32]] And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.
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 :[[Ge 12:4]] ¶ So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram [was] seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
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 Consider the riddle which uses other symbols. Abraham introduces the left and right hand imagery, though we don't have any reason to believe that he understood it. He suggests that one go left and one go right. <ref>[[Ge 13:9]] [Is] not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if [thou wilt take] the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if [thou depart] to the right hand, then I will go to the left.</ref> Recall how Jesus uses the left and the right with the goats and the sheep. <ref>[[Mt 25:33]] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.</ref>
-Did Lot go right or left? Is there sufficient information for us to know?  It tells us that Abram had been travelling South <ref>[[Ge 13:3]] And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the beginning, between Bethel and Hai;</ref> and then Lot went East. <ref>[[Ge 13:11]] Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other.</ref> He made a left turn. He chose the path of the goat/flesh.
+Did Lot go right or left? Is there sufficient information for us to know?  It tells us that Abram had been traveling South <ref>[[Ge 13:3]] And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the beginning, between Bethel and Hai;</ref> and then Lot went East. <ref>[[Ge 13:11]] Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other.</ref> He made a left turn. He chose the path of the goat/flesh.
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 Abram "died" desolate. He did not receive the promised child (Isaac). The child of promise  came to Abraham. When Ishamel was born, he was born to Abram not to Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 16:15]] ¶ And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son’s name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.</ref>  Just so there is no misunderstanding about the desolation of Abram, Paul, in writing to the Hebrews confirms our method of interpretation. He calls Isaac, Abraham's only-begotten son. Though Abraham had many more sons, the only one that counts as a son of Abraham is Isaac because he is the child of promise. <ref>[[Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son],</ref>
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	Did Lot go right or left? Is there sufficient information for us to know? It tells us that Abram had been travelling South <ref>[[Ge 13:3]] And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the beginning, between Bethel and Hai;</ref> and then Lot went East. <ref>[[Ge 13:11]] Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other.</ref> He made a left turn. He chose the path of the goat/flesh.		Did Lot go right or left? Is there sufficient information for us to know? It tells us that Abram had been travelling South <ref>[[Ge 13:3]] And he went on his journeys from the south even to Bethel, unto the place where his tent had been at the beginning, between Bethel and Hai;</ref> and then Lot went East. <ref>[[Ge 13:11]] Then Lot chose him all the plain of Jordan; and Lot journeyed east: and they separated themselves the one from the other.</ref> He made a left turn. He chose the path of the goat/flesh.
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	Abraham is also a second son by way of riddle. He was born as Abram. <ref>[[Ge 11:26]] And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.</ref> He was "born again" as Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 17:5]] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.</ref>		Abraham is also a second son by way of riddle. He was born as Abram. <ref>[[Ge 11:26]] And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.</ref> He was "born again" as Abraham. <ref>[[Ge 17:5]] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.</ref>