[[He 1:1 spake|⚫]] Jesus said that they have never seen nor heard the Father [[אב]]. <ref>Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.</ref> yet the word used here implies an utterance or the articulation of sounds. Obviously 'God' suggests something different than 'the father' <ref>God is trinity, father is one person of the trinity)</ref> or 'spake' is used metaphorically, or he used the proxy of prophets to speak to the fathers.