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Joseph's bones Submitted by PigSP on Tue, 2015-04-21 16:34.
When Moses moves Joseph's bones it is a reference to Christ's essence, not being left in the earth/Egypt. He arose!
Moses is a type of Christ as is Joseph, So Christ moved his essence from earth to heaven.
Egypt is a fun word study.
מצרים - Egyptian מצר - from distress
That's one of the clues that Egypt represents the earth . Before they got to the Promised land they had to "put off the flesh". All but two died in the desert.
Pun used by Jesus Submitted by PigSP on Tue, 2015-04-21 16:57.
A rich man ran after the poor man (Christ), however not to give him charity.
He called him a good teacher and asked what he must do to get into the kingdom.
Jesus said that no one was good.
The rich man replied that he was good, for he kept the whole law.
The only way that he could say he kept the whole law was if he viewed the law so narrowly that he essentially defined the law for himself. This is threading the needle of the law. It is like throwing darts, then drawing the target around where you hit.
The rich man's response basically taunted Jesus to prove that the rich man was not equal to God. So he used his own example.
Jesus as the richest man, the Son of God, gave up divinity (kenosis) and would give up his earthly life to follow the path of the Messiah.
The word gimel (the name of the letter) means camel.
So it is easier for a real camel to pass through a real eye of the needle, than it is for the rich man who pursued the poor man (gimel) who attempted to define the law so narrowly in his mind that he was equal to God/Christ, to enter the kingdom of God.
Making oneself equal to God violates the main message of the Book of life, that God is God and he has no peers. He is Holy.
Gen 12:3 Families Submitted by FelixPhil on Tue, 2015-04-21 22:20.
I'm new to this so please ignore if you seek credentials or authority.
The word 'families' occurs in Gen 12:3 (God's call to Abram) and in Gen 28:14 (Jacob's dream). In both instances it references the families of the earth that will be blessed through the subject patriarch - first instance Abram/Abraham, second instance Jacob. Gen 28:14 which occurred within Jacob's dream adds 'and your seed'.
An aside - blessing and cursing defined in Jeremiah: Jeremiah 17:5 Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, the flesh and whose heart departs from the Lord. Jeremiah 17:7 Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord and whose hope is in the Lord.
Other usage: Exodus 6 recording the families of Moses and Aaron. Numbers 1 The first census of all the Israelites, except the Levites, (by clans/families) who were able to serve in the army. Numbers 4 and 5 when allocating duties to the Levites. Numbers 26 a census recording the Israelites, except the Levites, (by clans/families) who were able to serve in the army. This was to allocate portions of the promised land for their inheritance based on their numbers. The Levites were counted seperately as they had no allocation of land for their inheritance.
There is much further usage of the word 'families', too many to list in this comment. Suffice it to say that it can mean a small family, large family, group, clan, nation or all people's of the earth depending on context.
מִשְׁפְּחֹ֥ת
mem - stream, wisdom, shin - change, flame, grace pei - mouth, speach chet - life, soul tav - faith, impression
In this context it could mean all those who receive the gospel by faith. God's Word changes by his grace the soul and life of those who receive him through their faith.
I hope you don't mind me applying your alphabet PigSP:
מ mem the promise of the Father (Jesus) ש shin that his word does not return void (changes) פ pe He spoke of heaven through examples of earth (a message that is relative) ח het when they understood (they get it, receive it) ת tav He completed his work resulting in a new life spontaneously responding to him (saved)
Jesus changes through his word those who receive it/him resulting in a new creature.
Speaking of Strokes Submitted by FelixPhil on Wed, 2015-04-22 08:32.
You describe the Hebrew alphabet as being written in strokes. I wonder if there is any correlation between the number of strokes it takes to write the entire Hebrew aplphabet and the number of strokes that Jesus received in order to take on the full punishment of the law.
Deuteronomy 25:1 to 3 When people have a dispute, they are to take it to court and the judges will decide the case, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty. 2 If the guilty person deserves to be beaten, the judge shall make them lie down and have them flogged in his presence with the number of lashes the crime deserves, 3 but the judge must not impose more than forty lashes. If the guilty party is flogged more than that, your fellow Israelite will be degraded in your eyes.
2 Corinthians 11:24 Paul the Apostle said he was whipped 5 times by the Jews receiving 40 minus one stripes (39).
Pilate had Jesus flogged, not the Jews. How many strokes did Jesus receive? He had difficulty carrying his cross so he must have received a lot.
what and why regarding Christ's bones Submitted by hesed28 on Wed, 2015-04-22 19:23.
Very good observation (I quote)
" What is the meaning of the prophecy and it's fulfillment? Since 'bones' עץם also means essence or substance, in Greek ὑπόστασις, the purpose of the prophecy is not just to check off an enumeration of things to do, but to tell us that Jesus, the exact representation of the ὑπόστασις of God did not cease to be God in his death."
When I get a minute I will try to catch up and reread some of the comments. So much info but your quote above caught my eye..." Interesting... The resurrection is something beyond human comprehension but by faith we believe and by faith we have hope to one day be resurrected!
strokes Submitted by PigSP on Wed, 2015-04-22 21:06.
>>You describe the Hebrew alphabet as being written in strokes. I wonder if there is any correlation between the number of strokes it takes to write the entire Hebrew alphabet and the number of strokes that Jesus received in order to take on the full punishment of the law.
That is a good question to start an observation. However, in this case I don't think they are related. Most of the letters take two or three strokes. I didn't count, but that makes more than 39.
Women saved through childbearing. Submitted by PigSP on Wed, 2015-04-22 21:35.
1Ti 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
When Paul changes from 'she' to 'they' it was done intentionally. Paul was well educated. It was not an accident.
Paul is using the metaphor. Adam represents Christ and Eve represents the church. The woman is the church. Adam and Eve were commanded to be fruitful and multiply.
We have already seen that Christ and the church are fruitful (a reference to the fruit of the Spirit) and multiple by teaching and making disciples. Paul refers to this as childbearing.
Paul uses 'she' to refer to Eve as the metaphor, and 'they' to refer to the church directly.
Jesus says to some "Depart from me, I never knew (was married to) you. Those who bear children (are fruitful) are 'known' by Christ.
The law of love superseding all Submitted by PigSP on Wed, 2015-04-22 22:08.
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
Since Paul uses the woman as a metaphor for the church which was deceived (do not understand):
Let the church learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not those who do not understand to teach, nor to usurp authority over Christ (or those who do understand), but to be in silence.
The purpose of the gospel was not to change sociological norms (although it does), but to reveal the Father through the Son. So the immature church would read Paul literally and the mature women, out of love would not make it an issue that society required them to be silent. Meanwhile the mature church would understand the metaphor and permit people who understand (no matter what gender) to teach.
All the trouble in the church about the role of women was the result of a poor hermeneutic that insisted that it be read literally.
v.3 the tree Submitted by PigSP on Wed, 2015-04-22 22:28.
Consider the following:
Two names trees: 9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Hermeneutic hint: When there are two things, they are two aspects of one thing.
The Tree of life represents the cross. (Love/grace) The Tree of the knowledge of good and evil represents the cross. (Holiness)
The two trees are one tree.
The image in Revelation is of a Tree that is on both sides of the river. it is often portrayed as a tree with the trunk split with the roots on each side .
Thr tree/cross reconciled Holiness and Love.
Reconciling Providence Submitted by FelixPhil on Wed, 2015-04-22 22:55.
"ayin - is one of the metaphors that is not consistently used by rabbis. Add it to bar 'son' and it becomes 'son of evil'. The strokes indicate Holiness and Grace expressed without the cross. The sense of evil comes from a representation of God without the cross. The sense of the flesh comes from Christ prior to the cross, and the taking of sin upon himself. I am not sure how to reconcile that with 'providence' I have found it to be more consistent and productive when expressed as the flesh. "
Genesis 22:8 "God himself will provide the lamb (הַשֶּׂ֛ה haś-śeh ).." Genesis 22:12 "Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son." Genesis 22:13 "Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram (אַ֔יִל ’a-yil )caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son."
God knew Abraham. God provided not a lamb but a ram pre-positioned by God. Christ prior to the cross, and taking the sin upon himself - pre-positioned by God through numerous prophecies, if that is not providence then I don't know what is.
consistent everywhere Submitted by PigSP on Thu, 2015-04-23 00:07.
I'm sorry, I don't understand your post. None of the Hebrew words you used have an ayin.
I am not bothered if you wish to pencil in providence for ayin.
The rule is that it must be the same everywhere. Every word which contains the ayin must be built up as a combination of the metaphors of the combined letters.
The difference between Greek and this hermeneutic is that there is no argument, only collaboration. It is doubtful that either of us will have the opportunity to examine every incidence of it in our lifetimes.
In the meantime we stand ready to be corrected by the text. No amount of opinion or rhetoric means anything. A single discrepancy invalidates it.
In my experience, a single word is insufficient to define a metaphor, and can only work as an index or reminder of the metaphor. Defining it as 'providence' is rather narrow, and I suspect it will fall apart under it's own weight.
ברא bara is the Son of God who spoke and created the heavens and the earth. It is translated 'create'. ברע baro is the Son of God in the flesh. It is translated evil. He was made to be sin in the flesh.
I'd be happy to see baro as Son of God in providence, but the weight of the evidence in metaphor vs definition, and in the puns being related as a heavenly and earthly aspect of the Son of God currently weigh in that favor.
Some have suggested that it is arbitrary. It is not. A proper answer will have more evidence than a free-for-all allegorical interpretation. It will have the evidence of all the words that use the letter. Although I have 15 years of experience with it, and nearly 20,000 hours researching Hebrew puns and riddles, my opinion is irrelevant, since it is self-correcting.
I am happy to have you tackle it and see if you come up with the same thing. I started with 8000 Hebrew letters and reverse engineered them to two-letter gates. Then broke them into single letter metaphor. These were validated against the combination of the strokes making up the letters. Each stroke is a metaphor and the letter must have a meaning consistent with the combined strokes.
These can be validated against three letter roots which should be a combination of a gate and a letter (metaphor combined).
I am working on validating all 8000 words by building them back up from the metaphor. I don't ask that you believe me. In fact, I am happy to have someone else desire to do it, and even be corrected by your findings.
So currently 'providence' messes up the strokes, the puns, and the hidden meaning in the alphabet, if you haven't seen that.
It's like a big multidimensional crossword puzzle. I have penciled in 'holiness and grace reconciled in his flesh' (or any paraphrase of that) and use flesh as the reminder or index to it. It works well in many of the interlocking riddles. So if you break it, you have to fix the other riddles too.
Welcome to the game.
My bad Submitted by FelixPhil on Thu, 2015-04-23 07:30.
I think I'm out of my league.
no such thing Submitted by PigSP on Thu, 2015-04-23 12:04.
Just a beginner, but you are welcome to play. It's not a competition, but a collaboration. So my observations have more experience behind them, but they are subject to the rules.
Just imagine yourself looking over the shoulder of someone doing a crossword puzzle. You read one riddle for an across word and surmised a solution, but did not see that it has to also fit the riddle for the down word.
This is what makes it different than the Greek hermeneutic.
Since I have not yet solved the whole puzzle, everything should be considered penciled in. And your observations are welcome.
Added: The system is so reproducible that I used to have a scoring system where I could tell you how much a metaphor had been validated and produce a work list to complete the validation. But if you think people think I am crazy now, you should have seen the reaction to that.
But I still have a gut feel for confidence level on each metaphor. I chose that it was more important to share Christ and him crucified from the hidden pictures than it was to complete the scoring. Children 'get it' by osmosis. Adults have to learn to play word games again. And it is beneath most 'scholars' to play.
A woman joined my Wed night class three weeks ago and is already unpacking pictures of Christ from Proverbs. It's easier to teach it in person, because when I see the glazed look in the eye, I can back up and make sure I have explained it well. I am hoping by posting here, I can learn to explain it better, so your questions are very welcome.
