Talk:Trinity

Can you explain the Holy Trinity in a way that I, an atheist, can understand?

Sure. Lets consider some requirements from scripture for our explanation before we tackle it:

1. There is one God.

2. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are each referred to as God

3. No one has seen the Father.

4. The Father and the Son are one.

The Son ‘emptied’ himself to become man.

The Spirit is an intermediary between the Father and the man.

Jesus is both God and man.

The three who testify in heaven are the Father, the Word (Son) and the Spirit.

As an analogy, there are three which testify on earth: Spirit, Water (Word), and the Blood.

Jesus is called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now let’s construct a model suggested by scripture. See a chess board with it’s dark and light squares. Imagine it extends everywhere in 3 dimensions so all that there is is filled with dark and light cubes.

Requirement #1 Before creation there was only God. From the verse we see his claim that he doesn't even know of any god.

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared [it]? ye [are] even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, [there is] no God; I know not [any].

He was bigger than any container that might contain him:

1Ki 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?

Requirement #2 We will use the dark cubes to represent the Father, the light cubes to represent the Son, and the planes between them to represent the Holy Spirit. They are one thing at this point with three parts.

Requirement #3

We will refer to the dark cubes as the Father. In Hebrew a dark saying is really just a riddle. Samson's riddle (Jud 14:12) is a dark saying associated with wisdom (Pr 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.)

The Father is hidden and has never been seen, so our analogy will use the 'dark' cubes to represent him.

Joh 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.